Episode 4: How the Bad Blood Started

Podcasts|Episode 4: How the Bad Blood Started

In the United States, racial health disparities have been as foundational as democracy itself.

Hosted by Nikole Hannah-Jones, produced by Annie Brown and Kelly Prime, with help from Clare Toeniskoetter and Austin Mitchell, and edited by Larissa Anderson, Lisa Chow, Wendy Dorr and Lisa Tobin

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Black Americans were denied access to doctors and hospitals for decades. From the shadows of this exclusion, they pushed to create the nation’s first federal health care programs.

On today’s episode:

  • Jeneen Interlandi, a member of The New York Times’s editorial board and a staff writer for The Times Magazine.

  • Yaa Gyasi, the author of the novel “Homegoing.”


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Background reading:

  • “One hundred and fifty years after the freed people of the South first petitioned the government for basic medical care, the United States remains the only high-income country in the world where such care is not guaranteed to every citizen,” Jeneen Interlandi writes.

  • The Times Magazine asked 16 writers to bring pivotal moments in African-American history to life. Read Yaa Gyasi’s story “Bad Blood” here.

  • The “1619” audio series is part of The 1619 Project, a major initiative from The Times observing the 400th anniversary of the beginning of American slavery. Read more from the project here.

Tune in, and tell us what you think. Email us at [email protected]. Follow Nikole Hannah-Jones on Twitter: @nhannahjones.

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